re: I poured the slurry into the rest of the liquid, measured the temp, and it had gone down to about 90, so I put it on the Instant Pot yogurt Boil setting again until the temp raised up to 110.. Things have been going very well and I appreciate all I have learned so far! -Allan, THats amazing! Above ideal, it also tapers off, to an irrecoverable cliff which is reportedly 122F (die-off). 1 quart half-and-half. The yogurt is thick, delicious, and contains a marked increase in bacterial counts, though I have not yet performed a formal count.. He is Medical Director and founder of the Undoctored program including the Undoctored Inner Circle. I think the first batch I allowed to get too hot and likely killed the L. reuteri. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details), The talk is letting it sit in an oven with temps of 110 degrees. That doesnt seem to be the question you are asking about.. The cholesterol house-of-cards crumbles further, The Unintended Consequences of Low-carb Diets, by Dr. Davis | Jul 7, 2021 | Diet and Lifestyle | 29 comments. what brand of milk, cream or half&half? each for gallon milk). That data has been referenced in other yogurt threads here, and discussed on the subscription forum. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). So, if one elects to avoid whey, what then to do with that fraction (assuming you get stratification, which some people dont). re: The Biogaia Gastrus tablets arent exactly given away at $27-$30/ box., True enough, but run the numbers on how many batches can be made from 30 tablets, if using saved-off yogurt as starter. Also, some devices are pre-set for yogurt making but are set too high; if the device heats to 112 degrees F, for instance, it will kill, Do store your yogurt in the refrigerator where it is generally fine for up to 4 weeks. My mother had the same reaction and so does my daughter. Am I completely correct in that assumption? This is not a fiber or carb or resistant starch issue; it is an issue of all the harmful substances contained in any grain, oats included. What are the pros and cons of eating/drinking the whey? As it happens, I just had a batch finish this morning our last dairy batch for a while, and had not planned to consume the whey fraction. (Our last flow cytometry run yielded a live count of 262 billion.) One of the challenges with coconut milk/cream-based recipes is that these dairy substitutes dont contain enough simple carbohydrate for the bacteria to metabolize to the desired degree. Idont recall seeing any adverse reactions raised, other than perhaps the occasional person not being happy with specific dream content where vivid dreams have been restored. An do you leave the lid on?. So we start with L. reuteri ATCC PTA 6475 provided by the Swedish company, BioGaia, who has somehow locked this species up with patents (not sure how; I thought biological organisms were non-patentable). But this is how I did it: 1 quart of organic half-and-half (or cream, whole milk, canned coconut milk, goats milk/cream, sheeps milk/cream) 2 tablespoons inulin (or unmodified potato starch or other prebiotic) 10 tablets of BioGaia Gastrus, crushed. Here is one of them. Then I unplugged the IP, plugged it back in, and ran the Yogurt setting on Normal for 8 hours, then another 5 hours on Normal again. Sometimes impossible to find organic cream where I live. This time, I started over with 10 Bio Gaia tablets, used organic half and Inulin. It could mean that you have adverse microbes higher in the intestinal tract than they are supposed to be, and they arent happy about what youre eating. The first batch tends to be a bit thinner with curdles, but subsequent batches tend to be thicker and smoother. Debbie Hollish wrote: Is the prebiotic fiber consumed by the probiotic bacteria?. [options are 36, 38 or 40 C] One quart Organic Valley whole milk, pasteurized + homogenized. They may or may not have performed lifetime outcome studies in their rodent models. In Dr. Davis recipe there are three ingredients, prebiotic fiber starter tabs or 2 tablespoons of yogurt whey from previous batch in a quart of half-and-half or coconut milk. Apparently there are several variations on how to make this yogurt. I do get a lot of whey,. homemade yogurt made with the probiotic, has been no easy feat. Also wondering if I put a particular strain of bacteria into my gut in a high count could that perhaps have consequences on the other bacteria in my gut since they have a relationship? ?, re: Can I get an unflavored tablet/capsule?. Davis started his own wheat-free experiment and asked his overweight, diabetes -prone patients to do the same. Im not expecting problems. The Inner Circle site recipe has changed several times, and is presently using a common coconut milk base with [non-hydrolyzed] guargum and specific preparation (requiring a stick blender). I have followed the directions and am using a yogurt maker so I dont think temperature is the problem. If you like you Chobani, you can keep your Chobani. Its cultures make a fine yogurt, but a different animal from the experiment were running here. Reuteri ATCC PTA 6375. Should I have left it going for another 12-24 hours, for 24-36 total, or was it right to pull the plug since the top was yellow and it smelled awful? Did test Instant pot temps with water bath with reliable thermometer. 2) Ive read elsewhere on the Internet that these Biogaia Gastrus tablets were not designed to make yogurts.. https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx2ZRL71EFP1BZV/ref=ask_ql_ql_al_hza, John M wrote: I wanted to practice first time without the Biogaia Gastrus tablets as they are expensive., re: I wanted to practice first time without the Biogaia Gastrus tablets as they are expensive.. Had very good luck making my first batch with an Instant Pot Used 2 quarts of grassfed organic milk, a couple of teaspoons of inulin, and about 10 L.R. Im going to make another batch with Trader Joes coconut milk that doesnt have the food additive in it and see if that makes a difference. So I have been amplifying bacterial counts by making yogurt. It was the 2019 Revised & Expanded. A possible cause: some internet sources suggest a batch of starter might lose its potency after four or five days in the fridge. But it sound so beneficial that it makes me wonder what to do. Biogaia may also only have tested doses to clinical effect for a specific benefit (that might not include oxytocin provocation, bacteriocins, etc). Meet with Dr. Davis . It does not appear so, short of ordering isolated Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC PTA 6475 as research material (and I havent researched how that would be done). Yep. Even though you may have been minding the temp, the bottom of that pot may have gotten hot enough to impair the culture. 11. Joan wrote: Theres so much talk about yogurt being good for you but I have always found it makes me sick.. Linda S. wrote: Ive made this with coconut milk (full fat in the can).. It completely separated into curds & whey. Companies like BioGaia will perform clinical trials to make sure the CFU they are recommending are safe and does not cause any side effects down the line ( say 10 or 15 years later). So if any of the damaging dont-cares can be beaten back by simple steps, you can either choose to address them, or brighten some Malthusians day. Place the cover lid on top. [not UHT] I heated to 180 degrees F, cooled to 110 degrees F. Then added small amount of cooled milk to slurry of 10 crushed Bio gastrus tabs with 1 Tbsp Inulin. The expiry date on commercial yogurts is typically a month (but thats unopened). (We start by making a slurry, as inulin or potato starch will form hard clumps if added to the entire volume.) You can set the temp and time for either 6 or 8 hrs. Although I experimented with re-inoculation years ago, I no longer recommend it. Elements that might have the most bearing on gut motility would include: grain free, magnesium restoration, daily prebiotic fiber, and ample hydration. (Available on Stitcher, Podchaser, Spotify, Amazon Music, iHeart Radio, and Podcast Addict. William Davis, MD, cardiologist and author of the #1 New York Times bestselling Wheat Belly books, as well as Undoctored and, most recently, Super Gut, brings the unvarnished truth about many health conditions. The easiest way to keep it at 110F is to put a lit 100watt bulb in the oven. My question is, what does this mean and is it good or bad? In a well matured batch of this yogurt, there is expected to be ample probiotic, and minimal prebiotic. Do begin by making a slurry of a couple tablespoons of yogurt from a prior batch or other source of bacteria (e.g, crushed Gastrus tablets, contents of one Osfortis capsule), a couple tablespoons of half-and-half or other liquid, 1-2 tablespoons prebiotic fiber; mix well. I was just curious to see if you knew anything about that. Dr Davis's recommends L. reuteri yogurt ferment for 30 to 36 hours. Ive tried it once, and considered the result a fail, possibly due to either/both of: 1. Where half and half milk is notavailable, we recommend, heating full cream milk (or whole milk in America and Canada). Were going to try Native Forest Simple. Bacillus coagulans and 1 qt. So far it has made two excellent batches using the starter batch version, and four excellent (and one not so hot) batches using the subsequent batch version. For the batches Ive made, between 24 and 36 hours, with the starter saved off at about 12hours. If there are already discussion on this topic please share Dr Davis views, Nasser Siddiqui wrote: Does anyone know of the side effects with such a high amount of L. reuteri CFU in the yogurt?. So the coconut recipes in development have lately been adding actual sucrose (table sugar; glucose+fructose). Sorry for the rant I used way too many words here, it is much simpler to just say DONT INGEST ANY GRAINS,. That got me thinking more about fermentation substrate and I found the above research this morning. Saved yogurt can be used as starter for the next batch. I would love to see an analysis of this yogurt. Before you begin it is important to sterilise theLuvele yogurt making glass jar, lid and any utensils you use, in boiling hot water. How did you perform the cool-down? as amended: 2018-11: I was wrong: Young people SHOULD obtain L. reuteri, re: Can someone clarify if the yogurt is recommended for a BC survivor?, Was it ER+ BC? Joan wrote: Its yogurt of any kind, in any combination.. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). Turn off the oven; repeat every 4-6 hoursnot precise, but it works fine when using dairy for fermentation. Do make sure the coconut milk contains only coconut (and perhaps water). What am I missing? How long was the ferment, and for extra credit, what temperature? From our feedback, this method produces reliable results. The non-microbial ingredients in the tablets are irrelevant after the first batch of yogurt. This is one of the most powerful sexual vitality boosters any man or woman can take period! The only reason I am doing this is for the health benefits brought about by the 6475, so I add a couple crushed tablets with every subsequent batch just to make sure the 6475 strain is maintained. Can this pot be set to more than 8 hours? It was so thick that it was almost pointless to strain it for the excess whey. I only let it go 1 day and the taste was actually stronger although it was still rather thin. No surprise, I guess, but theres not information at this link nowadays. It might contain more residual casein than the yogurt fraction. Im concerned that my L. Reuteri coconut batch temp was around 90 at times and up to 110 at other times. If you have been otherwise doing the Undoctored or 2014+ Wheat Belly program, Im a bit surprised to hear that you didnt have some inulin on hand. re: Also my yogurt device is a crockpot express brand and only says low or high for temperature, it doesnt say how many F it uses :(, Run it for a while with just water, and a probe thermometer. I was wondering if you could put a step by step on how you make your yogurt. Is that the goal? If the milk accidently boils briefly, dont panic reduce the heat and continue. Neutrophil % low at 32.4 and Lymphocyte% high at 55.6.. Wow! A lot of time the yogurt separated and looked like this: https://i.imgur.com/jxQbJW9.jpg. Then refrigerated. Would appreciate help, Hillary Anderson wrote: Kinetic yogurt maker. David wrote: Does this mean that you plan on having your yogurt analyzed at some point for species, strains, and CFUs?. Can you suggest some starting details for me? re: I assumed that it was due to cross contamination,. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). ________ Blog Associate (click for details), Hi there: I have tried twice to make this in my yogurt maker (Kinetic yogurt maker stays at 43 degree centigrade)- twice and it is totally liquid. Stay below 48hours in any case to avoid the latter. Where just having some L.reuteri around is the key, I would think so. TranscendingMS 131 subscribers Subscribe 8.3K views 7 months ago In this video we will make Dr William Davis yogurt in real time. I should be clear here that I am a total newbie to yogurt making and even yogurt consumption. I purchased a starter culture from Cultured Food Life by Cutting Edge Cultures after hearing Dr. Davis on Donna Schwenks podcast. Are the benefits due to: CFU amplification, and/or the exogenous metabolites, and if so do the metabolites vary by substrate, and perhaps time? Use the digital control panel to set the temperature to 36C and the time to 24-hours and then press confirm to begin incubation.12. It is necessary topurchaseorganic milk to guarantee no antibiotics are present. I use 1/2 gallon whole milk, 1/2 cup HWC, 1/2 cup previous batch yogurt, 2 tbsp. Our research into developing the best yogurt makers on the market together with our extensive experience making yogurthas us confident that a 24-hour incubation is sufficient. re: I would like to participate in this L.reuteri experiment, but strongly suspect dairy as fuel for an auto-immune response., Dairy reactions broadly fall into several categories: lactose: largely metabolized whey: largely fractionates and could be discarded casein beta A1: use bovine A2 or non-bovine milk hormones: seek non-medicated herd, but we are talking about nursing female animals, after all, so theres a limit to what can be done about that ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). Dee wrote: My yogurt maker instructions say 8-10 hours is good, with 12 hours being the most you would need.. And, if you join the discussions in our Undoctored Inner Circle website, you can add a number of other interesting fermentation projects that achieve effects such as shrinking your waist, deepening sleep, heightening your immune response, accelerating recovery after strenuous exercise, and reducing arthritis pain.